[Felvtalk] Coco update

[dlgegg at windstream.net]

tHEY ALSO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF LAWSUITS, THE CAT DIES AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAID BEFORE, YOU MIGHT SUE.

---- Maya D'Alessio <mdelow at gmail.com> wrote: 
> My vet seemed to really be influenced by the one study citing potential
> liver issues. I get it, it could cause liver issues, but in most cats it
> went away after coming off the drug, and if a cat is literally dying, then
> potential liver side effects are much less of a concern. To me it seemed
> like the vets don't want to use drugs that have side effects they are
> concerned about...but then they wanted to use AZT which is associated with
> non-regenerative anemia! I have a two vet practice that I go to, the one
> vet is very understanding and has been doing lots of research in to what
> I've been sending (she was quite interested in the LTCI), but the other vet
> is not really interested in hearing me out
> 
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Maya D'Alessio <mrdaless at uwaterloo.ca>
> wrote:
> 
> > My vet seemed to really be influenced by the one study citing potential
> > liver issues. I get it, it could cause liver issues, but in most cats it
> > went away after coming off the drug, and if a cat is literally dying, then
> > potential liver side effects are much less of a concern. To me it seemed
> > like the vets don't want to use drugs that have side effects they are
> > concerned about...but then they wanted to use AZT which is associated with
> > non-regenerative anemia! I have a two vet practice that I go to, the one
> > vet is very understanding and has been doing lots of research in to what
> > I've been sending (she was quite interested in the LTCI), but the other vet
> > is not really interested in hearing me out
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ardy – good for you!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Frankly, though, with the Winstrol, no matter what they come back and
> >> tell you, I would insist. None of them will have to deal with a bad outcome
> >> if that happens with Tigger, and you don’t want to be left with “what-ifs”.
> >> That has been my attitude since all this happened to me as well. This is MY
> >> cat and I hold MY cat’s life in my hands and I am not too interested in
> >> whatever weird perspectives they may have on what is politically okay or
> >> not okay about Winstrol (and seriously – I think it IS all about athletic
> >> doping scandals).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am very proud of you Ardy. Let us know how things go for you.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Amani
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
> >> Of *Ardy Robertson
> >> *Sent:* October-23-15 7:57 PM
> >>
> >> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I called both of my vet offices today. One was too busy to talk but they
> >> said they would call me back tomorrow morning. The other one talked to me
> >> and I was quite firm (proud of myself) telling him I would like the 4 vets
> >> in the office to either speak with me in a group, or talk amongst
> >> themselves and then I would come in and talk about my Tigger’s future
> >> treatment. I talked about Winstrol to him, and he promised to check with
> >> the veterinary specialists and see what they have to say about it. I told
> >> him I wanted to know about Tigger’s bloodwork (he has had blood tests, but
> >> no one has given me any results so I am really in the dark). I told him I
> >> want to be pro-active and not lose valuable time to treat things that pop
> >> up. He made a lot of promises to me, and I sincerely hope he follows
> >> through. I tried to impress upon him how important our little furball is to
> >> us, and that he deserves to have everything possible done for him. I told
> >> him I am willing to do the supportive care longterm or whatever is
> >> necessary, but did not want to do the unnecessary things. My goal is to
> >> change their minds about instantly writing off kitties who happen to be
> >> unfortunate enough to have this virus. I am so happy I found your group
> >> because I see that everyone who has posted seems to be of the same opinion.
> >>
> >> Ardy Robertson
> >>
> >> Osseo, WI
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org
> >> <felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org>] *On Behalf Of *Maya D'Alessio
> >> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 7:08 AM
> >> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good luck Kelley! Let me know how your vet reacts about the Winstrol.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:51 AM, <dlgegg at windstream.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> tHAT IS WHAT MY VET SAID WHEN i GOT ANNIE.  THE OTHERS ARE SAFE IF THEY
> >> ARE VACCINATED.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---- Kelley S <moonvine at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Well, I am happy to say she is eating like a champ.  She ate one
> >> serviing
> >> > of Prowl today, plus a can of food, plus some dry food - I don't really
> >> > like her eating dry but it will put weight on her.
> >> >
> >> > Best of all, my vet say he has no problems letting her in with the rest
> >> of
> >> > my vaccinated cats. I have 2 more vaccinations to go, one is tomorrow
> >> and
> >> > the other one is next Friday.  He even said when he brought the FELV+
> >> > kittens to his house, he made sure his other cats were vaccinated first
> >> and
> >> > then let them in with the others.
> >> >
> >> > I'm going to try my best to ask again about Winstrol tomorrow.
> >> >
> >> > Kelley
> >>
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> >>
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> >> Maya D'Alessio
> >>
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> Maya D'Alessio
> PhD student
> B1 377B, x32320
> Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator
> Biology GSA Vice Chair
> GSA Director At-Large
> University of Waterloo