[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 21

Rain Tyler rain.tyler at mchsi.com
Thu Nov 19 21:44:46 CST 2015


Christine, 
I am so sorry to hear about your Ruthie.  Why does it seem that the sweetest cats get this awful virus?  I know her life was short but I am glad it was love filled. 
Rain 

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>   1. Re: My Little Ruthie (Maya D'Alessio)
>   2. Re: My Little Ruthie (Christine Dundas)
>   3. Re: Saving them all - was:Merlot (Margo)
>   4. Re: My Little Ruthie (Margo)
>   5. Re: My Little Ruthie (Christine Dundas)
>   6. Re: Lymph nodes (Jetty Dijkshoorn)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:01:14 -0500
> From: "Maya D'Alessio" <mdelow at gmail.com>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Little Ruthie
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> I am so so sorry Christine. This virus is a scourge, and it has robbed you
> of a beautiful soul. I just lost Merlot three days ago, so I understand
> your pain, and can say that it will lessen with time.
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> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Christine Dundas <
> christinedundas at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Crossed over the bridge this morning.  She was the sweetest cat.  She had
>> a short life, 16 months.  But it was a good life and she knew she was
>> loved.  I hate this awful virus.
>> 
>> Christine
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> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:40:45 -0500
> From: Christine Dundas <christinedundas at gmail.com>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Little Ruthie
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> Thanks Maya
> I remember about Merlot.  I wrote a condolence note, but I think it didn't
> get posted for some reason.   Sending you good thoughts and prayers too.
> This is a great group.
> 
> Christine
>> On Nov 19, 2015 1:01 PM, "Maya D'Alessio" <mdelow at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am so so sorry Christine. This virus is a scourge, and it has robbed
>> you of a beautiful soul. I just lost Merlot three days ago, so I understand
>> your pain, and can say that it will lessen with time.
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Christine Dundas <
>> christinedundas at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Crossed over the bridge this morning.  She was the sweetest cat.  She had
>>> a short life, 16 months.  But it was a good life and she knew she was
>>> loved.  I hate this awful virus.
>>> 
>>> Christine
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>> Maya D'Alessio
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>> Biology GSA Vice Chair
>> GSA Director At-Large
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> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 16:37:55 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
> From: Margo <toomanykitties2 at earthlink.net>
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> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2015 17:28:15 -0500
> From: Christine Dundas <christinedundas at gmail.com>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org, Margo <toomanykitties2 at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Little Ruthie
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> Thank you Margo.  Your kind words help.  It is comforting to know there are
> people that get it.  Not all folks get it.  Maybe someday there won't be a
> need for an FeLV group.  But for now,  it's been a great help.
> 
> Christine
>> On Nov 19, 2015 4:59 PM, "Margo" <toomanykitties2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm so sorry, Christine,
>> 
>> Safe to the Bridge, Ruthie.
>> 
>> Christine, her life was too short. But in those months I'm betting that
>> she knew more love and joy than most cats see in 12-18 years.
>> 
>> You did well.
>> 
>> Margo
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Christine Dundas
>> Sent: Nov 19, 2015 11:56 AM
>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: [Felvtalk] My Little Ruthie
>> 
>> Crossed over the bridge this morning.  She was the sweetest cat.  She had
>> a short life, 16 months.  But it was a good life and she knew she was
>> loved.  I hate this awful virus.
>> 
>> Christine
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> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 00:10:41 +0100
> From: Jetty Dijkshoorn <jdidubai at gmail.com>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
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> I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your furry friends. Luckily my
> suspected FELV sweetheart Dolce is doing really well at this moment. He
> went from very lethargic with pale gums and nose to a lively guy with the
> help of 1 tablet of prednisolon every other day. I am very much interested
> in starting with Winstrol to help his RBC go further up but not sure
> whether I have to stop using the prednisolon or use both of them
> together.We live in the Netherlands and I already found out that I can buy
> the 2 mg tablets in an online shop for a reasonable price.
> I want to thank all the members of this forum for all your stories and
> advises. There is not much knowledge here about FELV and it is very common
> to put cats to sleep after very uncertain snaptest diagnosyses. So glad
> that thanks to your encouraging advises he is still a very happy cat.
> Although I am a bit concerned about a lump he developed under his left eye.
> It does not seem to bother him but I hope it does not grow any further.
> 
> Jetty an Dolce
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> 2015-11-19 2:16 GMT+01:00 Jane Gannon <straycats at roadrunner.com>:
> 
>> Do I just keep him on this indefinetely?  Do I have to keep having his
>> blood tested, how often?  How long did this help your cat?  Do you still
>> have this cat?
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Amani Oakley <aoakley at oakleylegal.com>
>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2015 10:38 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>> 
>> Hi Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Speak with your vet. He probably uses a compounding pharmacy for other
>> types of medication. This is where my vet gets Winstrol. Our vet can get
>> the Winstrol in 2 strengths: 2 mg and 1 mg tablets. They are hard to cut in
>> half, but for a long time, that is what I had to do since originally the
>> compounding pharmacy only had the 2 mg size tablets. The tablets are very
>> small and powdery when split, and dissolve very quickly with very little
>> moisture. Therefore, it made life a lot easier when the compounding
>> pharmacy started providing 1 mg sized tablets. If you can only get 2 mg
>> tablets, you also have the option of just giving them once a day, but I
>> think it is better to give 1 mg, 2 times a day.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have no idea where you are located or how big the compounding pharmacy
>> is that my vet uses, but it is called Chiron. (I?m in Ontario, Canada, and
>> I think this compounding pharmacy is located close to Guelph Ontario, near
>> the vet college there).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Definitely start your cat on the Winstrol as soon as possible. I have also
>> found Winstrol helpful in a cat I highly suspected of having FIP. She is
>> fine now.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Amani
>> 
>> 
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>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf
>> Of *Jane Gannon
>> *Sent:* November-17-15 11:54 AM
>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have had the worst nightmare happen to me.  I have a large cat family, I
>> used to work at a cat rescue organization and I also help any cats that
>> show up at my door.  Last year one of my two outdoor cats started to loose
>> weight.  He was 12 so I thought maybe kidney or  hyperthyroid.  He started
>> having anisocoria (one pupil lager than the other) and then I noticed  3
>> other cats with the same thing. I researched online and found that it can
>> happen to FELV+ cats.  So I took them all to the vet and found out they
>> were positive.  I then took the rest of my cat family and found out I had a
>> total of 10 positives and  12 negatives.  I vacinated the negatives and am
>> letting them all live together.  Since that time I have lost 5. Two older
>> ones actually died from kidney disease, I had to euthanise my son's 2 two
>> year olds cats, one developed FIP and the other ended up getting
>> neurological problems until he could no longer walk.  I euthanised one that
>> was having difficulty breathing and was no longer eating.  So I searched
>> for a group that was going through the same thing so maybe I could learn
>> about what can be done.  Grayson, who is positive, is now loosing weight.
>> He is 12 so I hoped maybe kidney or hyperthyroid so I had his blood tested
>> and he does not have either.  He is starting to have the sylmptoms of
>> FELV.  His hematocrit is 19 and he also has an abcess on his face that
>> doesn't want to heal.  He is acting like his old self and eating well.
>> I know my vet would not have a problem using winstrol, he has always worked
>> with me.   Where would he get it from?  Should I start it now before he
>> gets worse.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> *From:* kat <merrykatmeows at email.com>
>> 
>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:22 AM
>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Maya - I am so sorry for your loss.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kat (Mew Jersey)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 7:59 AM
>> *From:* "Maya D'Alessio" <mdelow at gmail.com>
>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>> 
>> Merlot left us yesterday morning. Thank you to everyone for your support
>> over the month, it has been incredible.
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2015 12:48 AM, <dlgegg at windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> They sense our love and concern.  I often bring a sick furbaby on my bed
>> and stay awake all night because I am afraid they will get worse and I will
>> not know in time to do something for them.  People think I am nuts, but I
>> cannot not be concerned.
>> 
>> ---- Ardy Robertson <ardyr at centurytel.net> wrote:
>>> I think when you really love your cat, you are inclined to observe every
>>> little thing and try to understand how they are feeling based on their
>>> actions/behavior. That gives you the insight into knowing what works and
>>> what does not. They may have the book training, but nothing replaces
>> loving
>>> and observing...... and of course the love is returned. Our Tigger, when
>> he
>>> was at his sickest and we thought he would not make it through the night,
>>> dragged himself into our bedroom during the night and could not get up on
>>> the bed by any means, but laid on the floor on my hubby's side where he
>> felt
>>> safer being near his "mommy and daddy". (call me Cookoo)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Lorrie
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 9:02 AM
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Lymph nodes
>>> 
>>> You got that right! I can tell they hate it that I am so knowledable
>> about
>>> cats, as it shows them up. Experience is the greatest teacher.
>>> 
>>> Lorrie
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11-14, dlgegg at windstream.net wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Vets and doctors soon learn it is useless to argue with us.
>>>> Sometimes our experience is better than their training.
>>>> 
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