[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6
dlgegg at windstream.net
dlgegg at windstream.net
Thu Aug 14 18:44:53 CDT 2014
SOME VETS WILL NOT TREAT AN UNVACCINATED CAT, POS OR NOT.
---- Kat Parker <korruptakitty at gmail.com> wrote:
> Why do the rabies? I would do the fvrcp before the rabies and i won't so
> either one. If your cat is not outside at all, which especially with being
> positive i think not, and you don't have rabid animals around, again,
> probably not the case, why on earth would you give a rabies shot to a
> positive cat? The law is ot going to be enforced in your home it's not a
> big deal, but over vaccinating a positive cat is a big deal. They have that
> antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop
> antibodies.
>
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> > 1. Re: fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? (Shelley Theye)
> > 2. Re: New & have question (dlgegg at windstream.net <javascript:;>)
> > 3. Re: FELV contagious (dlgegg at windstream.net <javascript:;>)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 -0400
> > From: Shelley Theye <veery at bellsouth.net <javascript:;>>
> > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] fvrcp vaccines- yes or no?
> > Message-ID: <79D7A665-5346-488D-90A8-62C6C5664C2F at bellsouth.net
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> > Hi Lance,
> >
> > I am not sure! I will ask her. She is pretty great. Didn't even
> > consider euth. when he tested positive. Went ahead and neutered Leo and
> > told me the news later that day.
> >
> > I just keep thinking about what the folks on this list said last year when
> > I asked, that their cats became sick after vaccinating.
> >
> > Thanks for letting me know that Ember did OK without vaccines at the vet
> > clinic. I don't know if they make a purevax FVRCP.
> >
> > We will do the Rabies, and vet said to wait at least 2 weeks between
> > vaccines if do the FVRCP. I thought that was good of her
> > to suggest too, because it is better not to do them all at once. I never
> > realized that until a few years ago.
> >
> > I'll let you all know if I find out anything on this, will probably just
> > do the rabies though for now.
> >
> > Shelley
> >
> >
> > On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Lance <linimon at fastmail.fm <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I wish I had an answer for you. Would your vet be willing to log onto
> > Vetinfo to see what other vets are recommending for FeLV cats? I seem to
> > recall that Ember?s vet recommended that she be vaccinated, but we never
> > did that. Despite her low white count, she never picked anything up at the
> > vet?s office as far as I know. Even the dentals didn?t weaken her enough.
> > >
> > > If Purevax makes an FVRCP vaccine, that might be the better one to go
> > with. It is supposed to have less possibility of causing a fibrosarcoma (we
> > used to call them vax site sarcomas).
> > >
> > > Also, you?re not overthinking this. You?re being a good and protective
> > cat parent.
> > >
> > > Best wishes for you and Leo,
> > >
> > > Lance
> > >
> > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Shelley Theye <veery at bellsouth.net
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi All,
> > >>
> > >> I asked last year when Leo was due for his yearly check-up, about how
> > everyone feels about vaccinating
> > >> their Leukemia pos. cats in general.
> > >>
> > >> The replies I received cautioned not to vaccinate for FVRCP, that is
> > caused cats to become ill afterwards.
> > >>
> > >> I have to get Leo vacc. for rabies since it is the law, will do the
> > Purevax like I did last year, but he
> > >> has only received one FVRCP vacc. back in summer 2012, when I first got
> > him and he was neutered and
> > >> I wasn't told about his FeLV status until afterwards. At the time I
> > thought he was a feral cat, he actually was,
> > >> but has since become quite tame.
> > >>
> > >> Last year, in 2013, I opted not to do the FVRCP, because of the
> > cautionary emails on the subject.
> > >> I guess my only worry is that he will be more susceptible in a vet
> > clinic when he goes in for a check up for
> > >> for treatment if he doesn't have that vaccine, so just would like to
> > throw this out there again for thoughts on
> > >> this subject. Also, is there a certain type of FVRCP that might be
> > less dangerous, etc?
> > >>
> > >> I have done some reading on Dr. Lisa Pierson's website, and sounds like
> > he should maybe have at least 2 vaccines
> > >> as an adult and then can stop. Am I overthinking this?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for any advice. So far, knock on wood, he is doing great,
> > though he is lonely, but I think since he was initially
> > >> semi-feral, the quiet lifestyle suits him. we built him a nice mini
> > screened porch/large window box which he really enjoys
> > >> and spend time with him daily.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >> Shelley
> > >>
> > >>
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:52:09 -0500
> > From: <dlgegg at windstream.net <javascript:;>>
> > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question
> > Message-ID: <20140813175209.WYRYT.48742.root at pamxwww05-z01>
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> > i HAVE STARTED OIL PULLING FOR MYSELF WITH COCONUT OIL. IT IS A GOOD
> > ANTIBACTERIAL, ETC. AND MIGHT HELP YOUR CAT. I USE A TABLESPOON EACH DAY,
> > IT TASTES GOOD AND MY HARLEY ALWAYS WANTS TO LICK MY FINGERS AFTERWARDS.
> > (I JUST SCOOP A FINGER FULL (ABOUT 1 TABLESPOON) AND PUT IT IN MY MOUTH.)
> > ---- Lance <linimon at fastmail.fm <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > I don?t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward oral
> > health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes pet
> > dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should bring
> > up their site. I believe they?re owned by Virbac.
> > >
> > > After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and DMG
> > (both are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often
> > gave her Prescription Diet t/d as a ?treat?. We rarely had any gum or teeth
> > issues, though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be good
> > for a kitty already dealing with any mouth pain.
> > >
> > > Best wishes for you and the calico kitten,
> > >
> > > Lance
> > >
> > > On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes <sweet2bcotasue at att.net
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original
> > test and this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+. I have 7 other cats and have
> > done rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs. We are waiting on IFA results now.
> > I was reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote
> > oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post. Can
> > someone help me with that info? Am waiting on labs now to decide on course
> > of treatment. Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats.
> > > > Thanks, Susan
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> > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:53:35 -0500
> > From: <dlgegg at windstream.net <javascript:;>>
> > To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious
> > Message-ID: <20140813175335.NI5VP.48748.root at pamxwww05-z01>
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> > THAT IS THE ONLY VACCINE I GET NOW AND I MAY STOP IT SINCE MY PRIDE DOES
> > NOT GET INTO BITING FIGHTS, JUST SNARLING AND HISSING AND SWATTING.
> > ---- "Katherine K." <kathstix at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > Hi Maya,
> > >
> > > I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one
> > was
> > > positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against
> > FeLV.
> > > But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you
> > do
> > > decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is
> > > vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps.
> > >
> > > However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You
> > could
> > > alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact
> > > you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or
> > if
> > > they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites.
> > We
> > > have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping or
> > > rehoming their pets.
> > >
> > > I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive cat.
> > > But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row,
> > and
> > > certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done
> > > it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for
> > > Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! <3
> > >
> > > Katherine
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio <mdelow at gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely. He is used to being second in
> > > > command to our cat Yang who passed away.
> > > >
> > > > I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until
> > > > they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are
> > really
> > > > sick). She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing
> > another
> > > > cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune
> > compromised,
> > > > etc. This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure who to believe here. Obviously FELV is contagious, and
> > it is
> > > > passed from cat to cat. The chance of that increases with increased
> > > > contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been
> > running
> > > > the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died
> > from
> > > > it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
> > > > negative for FELV recently. I can't imagine being responsible for
> > exposing
> > > > another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
> > > > Merlot who is lonely. I was thining maybe I would consider (in six
> > months
> > > > or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
> > > > ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put
> > down.
> > > >
> > > > What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Maya D'Alessio
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> > > > GSA Director At-Large
> > > > University of Waterloo
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