[Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6

Kat Parker korruptakitty at gmail.com
Thu Aug 14 12:17:46 CDT 2014 

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>    1. Re: fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? (Shelley Theye)
>    2. Re: New & have question (dlgegg at windstream.net <javascript:;>)
>    3. Re: FELV contagious (dlgegg at windstream.net <javascript:;>)
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> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 -0400
> From: Shelley Theye <veery at bellsouth.net <javascript:;>>
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> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] fvrcp vaccines- yes or no?
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> Hi Lance,
>
> I am not sure!  I will ask her.  She is pretty great.  Didn't even
> consider euth. when he tested positive.  Went ahead and neutered Leo and
> told me the news later that day.
>
> I just keep thinking about what the folks on this list said last year when
> I asked, that their cats became sick after vaccinating.
>
> Thanks for letting me know that Ember did OK without vaccines at the vet
> clinic.  I don't know if they make a purevax FVRCP.
>
> We will do the Rabies, and vet said to wait at least 2 weeks between
> vaccines if do the FVRCP.  I thought that was good of her
> to suggest too, because it is better not to do them all at once.  I never
> realized that until a few years ago.
>
> I'll let you all know if I find out anything on this,  will probably just
> do the rabies though for now.
>
> Shelley
>
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> On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Lance <linimon at fastmail.fm <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
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> > I wish I had an answer for you. Would your vet be willing to log onto
> Vetinfo to see what other vets are recommending for FeLV cats? I seem to
> recall that Ember?s vet recommended that she be vaccinated, but we never
> did that. Despite her low white count, she never picked anything up at the
> vet?s office as far as I know. Even the dentals didn?t weaken her enough.
> >
> > If Purevax makes an FVRCP vaccine, that might be the better one to go
> with. It is supposed to have less possibility of causing a fibrosarcoma (we
> used to call them vax site sarcomas).
> >
> > Also, you?re not overthinking this. You?re being a good and protective
> cat parent.
> >
> > Best wishes for you and Leo,
> >
> > Lance
> >
> > On Aug 11, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Shelley Theye <veery at bellsouth.net
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I asked last year when Leo was due for his yearly check-up, about how
> everyone feels about vaccinating
> >> their Leukemia pos. cats in general.
> >>
> >> The replies I received cautioned not to vaccinate for FVRCP, that is
> caused cats to become ill afterwards.
> >>
> >> I have to get Leo vacc. for rabies since it is the law, will do the
> Purevax like I did last year, but he
> >> has only received one FVRCP vacc. back in summer 2012, when I first got
> him and he was neutered and
> >> I wasn't told about his FeLV status until afterwards.  At the time I
> thought he was a feral cat, he actually was,
> >> but has since become quite tame.
> >>
> >> Last year, in 2013, I opted not to do the FVRCP, because of the
> cautionary emails on the subject.
> >> I guess my only worry is that he will be more susceptible in a vet
> clinic when he goes in for a check up for
> >> for treatment if he doesn't have that vaccine, so just would like to
> throw this out there again for thoughts on
> >> this subject.  Also, is there a certain type of FVRCP that might be
> less dangerous, etc?
> >>
> >> I have done some reading on Dr. Lisa Pierson's website, and sounds like
> he should maybe have at least 2 vaccines
> >> as an adult and then can stop.  Am I overthinking this?
> >>
> >> Thanks for any advice.  So far, knock on wood, he is doing great,
> though he is lonely, but I think since he was initially
> >> semi-feral, the quiet lifestyle suits him.  we built him a nice mini
> screened porch/large window box which he really enjoys
> >> and spend time with him daily.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Shelley
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:52:09 -0500
> From: <dlgegg at windstream.net <javascript:;>>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New & have question
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> i HAVE STARTED OIL PULLING FOR MYSELF WITH COCONUT OIL.  IT IS A GOOD
> ANTIBACTERIAL, ETC. AND MIGHT HELP YOUR CAT.  I USE A TABLESPOON EACH DAY,
>  IT TASTES GOOD AND MY HARLEY ALWAYS WANTS TO LICK MY FINGERS AFTERWARDS.
>  (I JUST SCOOP A FINGER FULL (ABOUT 1 TABLESPOON) AND PUT IT IN MY MOUTH.)
> ---- Lance <linimon at fastmail.fm <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > I don?t know of any supplements that are specifically geared toward oral
> health. Someone else may have some helpful info. I know that CET makes pet
> dental products, including a water additive. Googling for them should bring
> up their site. I believe they?re owned by Virbac.
> >
> > After she tested positive, I gave my FeLV+ girl interferon alpha and DMG
> (both are general immune system boosters) for most of her life. I often
> gave her Prescription Diet t/d as a ?treat?. We rarely had any gum or teeth
> issues, though she did need several cleanings. The t/d would not be good
> for a kitty already dealing with any mouth pain.
> >
> > Best wishes for you and the calico kitten,
> >
> > Lance
> >
> > On Aug 11, 2014, at 9:06 PM, Susan Grimes <sweet2bcotasue at att.net
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > I have a 4 month old calico that just retested for a FIV+ original
> test and this week she tested FIV- and FeLV+.  I have 7 other cats and have
> done rescue/foster work the last 3 yrs.  We are waiting on IFA results now.
>  I was reading the archives and read something about supplements to promote
> oral health/for stomatitis (?) now I can't seem to find that post.  Can
> someone help me with that info?  Am waiting on labs now to decide on course
> of treatment.  Currently on Immunostim drops and Lysine treats.
> > > Thanks, Susan
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> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 16:53:35 -0500
> From: <dlgegg at windstream.net <javascript:;>>
> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV contagious
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> THAT IS THE ONLY VACCINE I GET NOW AND I MAY STOP IT SINCE MY PRIDE DOES
> NOT GET INTO BITING FIGHTS, JUST SNARLING AND HISSING AND SWATTING.
> ---- "Katherine K." <kathstix at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > Hi Maya,
> >
> > I have 2 cats who have lived together for a long time. I found out one
> was
> > positive. The other tested negative, so I had her vaccinated against
> FeLV.
> > But, they had already been in very close contact for a long time. If you
> do
> > decide to bring in a negative cat, definitely make sure he/she is
> > vaccinated against FeLV. It is not a fool proof vaccine but it helps.
> >
> > However, perhaps you could find another FeLV+ friend for Merlot. You
> could
> > alert volunteers and staff at your local shelters and rescues to contact
> > you before euthanizing if one of their strays tests positive for FeLV or
> if
> > they hear of any positive cats. Or keep an eye on local rescue websites.
> We
> > have one in the U.S. called Craigslist where people are always dumping or
> > rehoming their pets.
> >
> > I personally wouldn't want to introduce a healthy cat to my positive cat.
> > But that's an interesting perspective about saving one from death row,
> and
> > certainly something to consider. And I know others on the list have done
> > it, without many issues. Hopefully you can find a positive friend for
> > Merlot. I do hate to think of him being lonely! <3
> >
> > Katherine
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Maya D'Alessio <mdelow at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > So, my one cat Merlot is clearly lonely.  He is used to being second in
> > > command to our cat Yang who passed away.
> > >
> > > I work with a cat rescue, and the cats there all live communally until
> > > they are adopted (with a quarantine area for cats on meds/who are
> really
> > > sick).  She thinks that there isn't much of a problem with bringing
> another
> > > cat in to the house, as long as the other cat is not immune
> compromised,
> > > etc.  This contrasts with what my vet says - no other cat contact.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure who to believe here.  Obviously FELV is contagious, and
> it is
> > > passed from cat to cat.  The chance of that increases with increased
> > > contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been
> running
> > > the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died
> from
> > > it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test
> > > negative for FELV recently.  I can't imagine being responsible for
> exposing
> > > another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for
> > > Merlot who is lonely.  I was thining maybe I would consider (in six
> months
> > > or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home.
> > >  ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put
> down.
> > >
> > > What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Maya D'Alessio
> > > PhD student
> > > B1 377B, x32320
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> > > Biology GSA Vice Chair
> > > GSA Director At-Large
> > > University of Waterloo
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