[Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Mon Sep 12 11:53:54 CDT 2011

You can order Benebac pet gel from the net. They have one for dogs and one for cats now. The cat one does not have lactobacillus in it. Also, New Chapter makes wonderful probiotics. Iherb carries them and a lot of other health food sites.

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On Sep 12, 2011, at 12:34 AM, ccarlsberg at gmail.com wrote:

> How and where to get acidophilus for animals?!? I have milk for humans with it...lol
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> From: Natalie <atia2 at optonline.net>
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> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:04:43 
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> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
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> I have never had good luck with FortiFlora; I think that it's just another way of selling something for more instead of getting it cheaper.  With acidophilus, you don't even have to measure out a dosage, whatever you give, will be fine.
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> From: felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ccarlsberg at gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:08 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
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> I've tried "forti flora"... Give him half a packet a day, bc he's only 4lbs. No difference. Just started that 4 days ago tho...
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> From: Marcia Baronda <marciabmarcia at gmail.com>
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> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:55:03 
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> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
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> I think probiotics will also help. They will help diarrhea and also will replenish good bacteria in the gut.
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> On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 PM, <dlgegg at windstream.net> wrote:
> 
>> When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts for 2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying to give her a pill or liqud each day.
>> 
>> ---- Maureen Olvey <molveywda at hotmail.com> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure though.
>>> 
>>> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling up the skin to test the elasticity.
>>> 
>>> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats diarrhea.
>>> 
>>> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
>>> 
>>> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
>>> 
>>> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
>>> 
>>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
>>> From: ccarlsberg at gmail.com
>>> To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>>> 
>>> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued from the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
>>> When should I re-test?
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,  <dlgegg at windstream.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It has been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---- Marcia Baronda <marciabmarcia at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> No Kidding....my thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
>>> 
>>>> can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
>>> 
>>>> All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
>>> 
>>>> Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi <tisme at mindspring.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
>>> 
>>>>> There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life
>>> 
>>>>> and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us who
>>> 
>>>>> have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg
>>> 
>>>>> at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed to
>>> 
>>>>> the outside or any pos cats…..****
>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> ** **
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>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> *From:* felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org [mailto:
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>>>>> felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
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>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
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>>>>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats****
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> ** **
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>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.****
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>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> ****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>*
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>>>>> ***
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> ****
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> ** **
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>>>>> ------------------------------
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>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> *From:* Natalie <atia2 at optonline.net>
>>> 
>>>>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
>>> 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had
>>> 
>>>>> the IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> ****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> *From:* felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org [mailto:
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>>>>> felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
>>> 
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
>>> 
>>>>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
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>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats****
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>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> ****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT
>>> 
>>>>> mean they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their
>>> 
>>>>> bone marrow.****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Beth****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>*
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>>>>> ***
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>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> ****
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> ****
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>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> *From:* Natalie <atia2 at optonline.net>
>>> 
>>>>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> 
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
>>> 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very
>>> 
>>>>> lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became
>>> 
>>>>> friends overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the
>>> 
>>>>> IFA – they were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them
>>> 
>>>>> could have been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!
>>> 
>>>>> The strange thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done
>>> 
>>>>> to soon after the positive ELISA.****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely
>>> 
>>>>> positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother
>>> 
>>>>> will be positive more likely than not.****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> *From:* felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org [mailto:
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>>>>> felvtalk-bounces at felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *April Johnson
>>> 
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
>>> 
>>>>> *To:* felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
>>> 
>>>>> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> ****
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female
>>> 
>>>>> (Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and
>>> 
>>>>> begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after
>>> 
>>>>> being adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not
>>> 
>>>>> know when I adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless
>>> 
>>>>> you request it.  Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet
>>> 
>>>>> wanted me to put her to sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.
>>> 
>>>>> I couldn't do it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare
>>> 
>>>>> bedroom into her home.  She has a cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.
>>> 
>>>>> I think she is lonely being by herself.  A rescue in my area just posted
>>> 
>>>>> about a mother cat and her juvenile litter of kittens having all just tested
>>> 
>>>>> positive for feline leukemia.  I was thinking of looking for a friend for
>>> 
>>>>> Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our area that takes in FELV and FIV
>>> 
>>>>> positive cats.  They recommended not adding because it could make Spicy sick
>>> 
>>>>> or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week to get retested for FELV, the
>>> 
>>>>> vet said there is remote chance she could turn negative.  If she is still
>>> 
>>>>> positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her a friend?? ****
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> ****
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>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> April ****
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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