[Felvtalk] low phosphorous food
catatonya
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Fri Jul 18 11:20:08 CDT 2008
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:21:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: catatonya
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
thank you Sharyl.
Are you all saying that instead of kd food I just need one low in phosphorous? What is considered low?
thanks,
t
Sharyl wrote:
That makes more sense. Here is a link on giving Sub Q fluids that has really helped me.
Sophia Gets Her Subcutaneous (Sub Q) Fluids
http://www.tinyurl.com/63max
Good luck
Sharyl
--- On Tue, 7/15/08, catatonya wrote:
From: catatonya
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 2:58 PM
Found Bun. It is 40.
Sharyl wrote: Tonya, is that a typo for Bob's BUN value? Just very low for a CRF kitty with a Crea of 2.6. You will want to read and bookmark Tanya's web site.
www.felineCRF.org
SubQ fluids are usually given to maintain adequate hydration. Weekly fluids probably don't help much on that score. Usually kitties are no longer able to maintain adequate hydration when the Crea value gets to the high 3's but each kitty is different and requires a unique treatment plan. All of Bob's other values look good. The best food for a CRF kitty is the lowest phosphorus food he'll eat.
Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's babies
--- On Tue, 7/15/08, catatonya wrote:
From: catatonya
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:15 AM
Hey Belinda,
This has been lost in cyberspace several times. I'm hoping it comes through with the new server.
Bob's numbers:
creatnine 2.5
bun 16
phosphorus 4.5
potassium 4.1
HCT 37.9
Other numbers that were noted as high were:
urea nitrogen 40
cholesterol 269
amylase 1440
we have put him on the new science diet kd canned (it has a better consistency and it is the only one out of about 4 we've tried that he will eat.) 100 mL of fluid per week.
and yes, he has high blood pressure and we have him on norvasc 2.5 mg daily
plus the vet has recommended cosequin for joints and said it actually helps the kidneys (i can't read the dosage it's written so small on the capsules and i can't find the box. i have a hard time getting them down him though so he doesn't take them with much regularity.)
how does all of this sound to you.
I need to put lysine in the wet food for sneaker's herpes. the vet said this would not hurt bob's kidneys. what do you think about that?
tonya
Belinda Sauro wrote:
What are his numbers, specifically his Creatinine, BUN,
Phosphorus, Potassium, and his HCT, these are the important ones that
tell you how well or not well he is doing? Get them from your vet, they
can fax or give you a copy of his last blood work results, you paid for
them they are yours. Tell me what they are and I can tell you what my
vet would be doing if Fred had those numbers. Also has his blood
pressure been checked, CRF cats are notorious for getting high blood
pressure, this can be very dangerous and cause blindness if not caught
and treated. Several cats on the CRF list have gone blind been put on
amlodipine and regained some if not all of their sight. The retinas
detach when the blood pressure gets too high, too high can vary for each
individual cat but you really don't want the blood pressure higher than
170 or 180 at the vets.
Fred's has been as high as 200 to 240 when he was having the episode
that I took him in for right away, thankfully his retinas never detached
but I got him in right away when his legs were twitching and he kind of
looked spacey and fell over.
Get the numbers and send them ... does he still get fluids?
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thank you Sharyl.
Are you all saying that instead of kd food I just need one low in phosphorous? What is considered low?
thanks,
t
Sharyl <clinebay at yahoo.com> wrote:
That makes more sense. Here is a link on giving Sub Q fluids that has really helped me.
Sophia Gets Her Subcutaneous (Sub Q) Fluids
href="http://www.tinyurl.com/63max">http://www.tinyurl.com/63max
Good luck
Sharyl
--- On Tue, 7/15/08, catatonya <catatonya at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: catatonya <catatonya at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 2:58 PM
Found Bun. It is 40.
Sharyl <clinebay at yahoo.com> wrote: Tonya, is that a typo for Bob's BUN value? Just very low for a CRF kitty with a Crea of 2.6. You will want to read and bookmark Tanya's web site.
href="http://www.felinecrf.org/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>www.felineCRF.org
SubQ fluids are usually given to maintain adequate hydration. Weekly fluids probably don't help much on that score. Usually kitties are no longer able to maintain adequate hydration when the Crea value gets to the high 3's but each kitty is different and requires a unique treatment plan. All of Bob's other values look good. The best food for a CRF kitty is the lowest phosphorus food he'll eat.
Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's babies
--- On Tue, 7/15/08, catatonya <catatonya at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: catatonya <catatonya at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] crf-Belinda
To: felvtalk at felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 10:15 AM
Hey
Belinda,
This has been lost in cyberspace several times. I'm hoping it comes through with the new server.
Bob's numbers:
creatnine 2.5
bun 16
phosphorus 4.5
potassium 4.1
HCT 37.9
Other numbers that were noted as high were:
urea nitrogen 40
cholesterol 269
amylase 1440
we have put him on the new science diet kd canned (it has a better consistency and it is the only one out of about 4 we've tried that he will eat.) 100 mL of fluid per week.
and yes, he has high blood pressure and we have him on norvasc 2.5 mg daily
plus the vet has recommended cosequin for joints and said it actually helps the kidneys (i can't read the dosage it's written so small on the
capsules and i can't find the box. i have a hard time getting them down him though so he doesn't take them with much regularity.)
how does all of this sound to you.
I need to put lysine in the wet food for sneaker's herpes. the vet said this would not hurt bob's kidneys. what do you think about that?
tonya
Belinda Sauro <macat at bemikitties.com> wrote:
What are his numbers, specifically his Creatinine, BUN,
Phosphorus, Potassium, and his HCT, these are the important ones that
tell you how well or not well he is doing? Get them from your vet, they
can fax or give you a copy of his last blood work results, you paid for
them they are yours. Tell me what they are and I can tell you what my
vet would be doing if Fred had those numbers. Also has his
blood
pressure been checked, CRF cats are notorious for getting high blood
pressure, this can be very dangerous and cause blindness if not caught
and treated. Several cats on the CRF list have gone blind been put on
amlodipine and regained some if not all of their sight. The retinas
detach when the blood pressure gets too high, too high can vary for each
individual cat but you really don't want the blood pressure higher than
170 or 180 at the vets.
Fred's has been as high as 200 to 240 when he was having the episode
that I took him in for right away, thankfully his retinas never detached
but I got him in right away when his legs were twitching and he kind of
looked spacey and fell over.
Get the numbers and send them ... does he still get fluids?
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties
http://www.bemikitties.com
HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web
design]
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